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| Robbie |
 Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:20 am |
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Really close game on Langres, down to the wire too. Mainly for Monkey and Higgum to see how I handle riflespam as PE. (It's still really difficult  )
One thing I want to mention, I sacrificed the PIV since it wouldn't last a minute on the field with that M10, I wanted to buy some time before the Marder was finished, but my T3 went up a bit too late and I lost a lot of the map because of it.
Keep an eye out for the recoiless rifles never missing my infantry halftrack and constatly gibbing infantry every engagement. Oh, and the 50 ish kill FSJ squad which I threw away in an act of desperation to cap a VP late game.
http://www.bloodworks.org/game_replays/2p_langres.2008-08-31.02-15-16.rec
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| hawkeye52 |
| Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:09 am |
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generally well fought that game and i learned some new things from that like using marders to create cover by shelling the ground. my only criticism in that is maybe getting a mortar HT earlier in the game. as that would have dealt with quite a bit of the infantry blobs.
p.s. strafes arnt that bad considering the amount of munitions they take up(150) or bombing runs (250) |
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i think it was nephex that said this while on pam4 while i had a M60 and it went something like this
nephex "your being really stealthy"
me "yeah about as stealthy as a grizzly bear" |
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| Peanut |
| Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:45 am |
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| Hawkeye, strafes are over powed you think infentry cost 270 manpower, stafes only 150 munitions and it's hard to avoid, with a non vet squad you could loss all of them Plus half another squad. |
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| Vaz |
| Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:44 am |
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| Hawkeye you strafe n00b. I've had 3 squads vet 3 defensive 4-man Panzer Grenadiers wiped out in one strafe so stfu s'il vous plait. Strafes aren't bad if you're playing with a complete retard (and its for them that the allies were created...) |
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| hawkeye52 |
| Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:25 pm |
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vaz y the hell r u always so violent towards me u could just said something along the lines of peanut and that would have been better then i wouldnt have minded. its just a damn opinion. just one more wuestion though y the strafe noob i havnt used americans nevermind airborne for about a month. i dont want this to turn into another flame war so im gonna leave it at that
p.s just spread your squads a bit |
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i think it was nephex that said this while on pam4 while i had a M60 and it went something like this
nephex "your being really stealthy"
me "yeah about as stealthy as a grizzly bear" |
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| Vaz |
| Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:56 pm |
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*kiss kiss* If you haven't noticed I'm always "violent" in my posts. I get right to the point.
Strafe is overpowered. Period. You're right: strafe n00b was the wrong term. By it I meant: n00b who hasn't played against good Airborne players 
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I've played a bit longer than you so I think I know what I'm talking about. (ask Robbie about the countless times we'd lose all our infantry to weird strafe mechanics). The squads were spread out and even in yellow cover... The Polish proverb: don't teach a father how to make babies comes to mind.
Spreading out squads as PE = death vs Americans, but you wouldn't know that and spreading them out "a bit" does absolutely nothing. Don't forget airborne blobs: PE vehicles become useless  So in other words: a good airborne player instagibs practically every non-doctrine PE unit
My violent response comes from the fact that you sound like every other Allied pussy on the GR forums who vehemently stands in defence of the current status quo in the game.
You're like an innocent (oh really?) civilian caught in my murder spree
And finally: if the strafe is so ok according to you then why the heel is it being nerfed in the beta? jacked up to 200 ammo while at the same time losing one of its machineguns? hmm?
Guess the pros must be noobs.
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| Robbie |
| Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:28 pm |
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I just found it annoying that my counter attacks failed because 2/3 of my infantry squads constantly get strafed, and I lost a FSJ squad to it while they were capping, I wouldn't be so bothered if you could actually avoid it.
And Hawkeye yeah I thought about a Mortar Halftrack early but I knew a TD was coming and it would just get killed by either the airborne or M10s. Besides it isn't actually that useful against roaming rifle/airborne squads. |
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| hawkeye52 |
| Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:38 pm |
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| oh sorry robbie must not have noticed |
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i think it was nephex that said this while on pam4 while i had a M60 and it went something like this
nephex "your being really stealthy"
me "yeah about as stealthy as a grizzly bear" |
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| Major.Hangover |
| Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:50 am |
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gRRRR! i just wanted to punch that guy in the face ! thought i used cunt tactics but this... anyway, great micro from both players.. jeeezus how do u pay attention to all those units O.o i send one of and forget about it ...
I was interested with the start, a lot of grenadiers at start with the rifle upgrade thingy... what would you have done if he went quick m8? u had no counter to vehicles + he got the BARs a bit later.. it would give me thoughts he went quick M8 :/
id honestly be so pissed off mid game.. you'd probably see a bit more messagin interaction between us if it was me |
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| Robbie |
| Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:45 am |
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After 6 PG squads and Defensive Ops researched there is always a pause in teching, you may also float a bit of manpower but this is fine.
If I see BARs or nades that means no M8 so I can stick in T2 for a while getting Field Craft and a Infantry HT to even out the playing field a little. After that hop on over to T4 and grab a PIV, no need for AT halftracks the PIV can tackle an M8 if he is actually getting one late.
If there are no rifle upgrades I'm assuming an M8 so I tech to T4 for double Light AT halftracks and then a PIV. I knew he was going for a tank depot this game with an airborne strat like that but I didn't realise he had the fuel for it so quickly, thats why my T3 went up late.
One more thing, I don't really go tank hunters anymore. Hetzers are easily taken out by AT guns and the Jagd is too far away for my liking, you are essentially playing without a doctrine if you go RHS tank hunters.
FSJ squads are awesome and give you that firepower you need at 3CPs, they make great support for your G43 troops and the PIV, don't forget to plop them in cover, ambushes give you more firepower than a commando squad. |
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